The Marching Qween, Ms Natalie Allan - Episode 14

Justine is back in the studio (Renee's garage) after her whirlwind trip to San Francisco, and naturally, Renee has questions. Lots of questions. From driverless cars to American adventures, Jussy gives us the full download on her trip and why she highly rates traveling with out kids.

The girls also share their thoughts on the recent Kylie Minogue documentary and, in a shocking development to absolutely nobody, Renee does not hold back. Opinions are had. Reviews are given. Long live the Aussie Princess of Pop!

Then we get to the main event.

This week we’re joined by none other than the Marching Qween herself, Natalie Allan from Brisbane Water United Physie. If you’ve ever wondered how some people make marching look effortless while the rest of us are just trying not to run into each other, Nat is here to help.

Natalie takes us behind the scenes of one of physie’s most iconic disciplines, sharing what it takes to become a great marcher, the common mistakes people make, and why marching deserves far more respect than it often gets. 

We also dive into a whole range of physie topics, swap stories, have plenty of laughs, and inevitably end up down a few physie rabbit holes along the way.

As always, it’s informative, entertaining, and just a little bit chaotic.

And because Renee never misses an opportunity for a bargain, she also comes armed with a special offer from our friends at Instinctive Health. Listeners can receive 50% off the Instinctive Health Reset Program, Health Audit and the Teen Healthy Mind and Mind Program, when purchased before the end of the financial year using the code TCPC50.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:10

Cheers to that.

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I'm back. She's back.

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Oh very

Justine Rigby is back

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good job. Oh pissed you. You did a great job.

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So you and I should we should we formally start the episode?

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Mm-hmm.

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Hi. Hi.

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Welcome to this fizzy podcast. I'm your host, Justine Renee.

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And I'm your host. She's forgotten how to do this job. Renee Walker.

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Yay! We're two fizzy enthusiasts who um still know very little of this.

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That today? Yep. I was like, oh my god, I absolutely know nothing about this.

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Every time we think that we're like, oh yeah, we got this down fact. Yeah.

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Humbled. Although I'd say I haven't been humbled in a while, and in that time I've gotten quite cocky.

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Yeah.

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And thinking that I know quite a lot.

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And um I would have brought you down a few bags.

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I was just like, I give up, like, I'm just never gonna know it all.

Confirmed: We know nothing about Physie

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Oh, we will. Look at how far we've come.

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But we have come a long way. We used to call it the fizzies.

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Oh, we used to call it the fizzies.

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Instead of codes.

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See, we know. We probably know m a lot more than other people would across the spectrum of your standard people.

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Yeah, we're like and we're a bit higher than a beginner.

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Yeah.

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That's nice. I'll take that.

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Alright.

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We know a bit more than a beginner.

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I don't know, I just burp. Gross.

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Gross. No, I I rate that.

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There's no beginning. She's gone for two weeks, she's lost all of her etiquette.

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I thought the Americans were more polite than a stranger. They really can I tell us everything about the trip.

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Oh my gosh. So the trip was incredible.

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I literally, by the way, for the listener, we have not spoken. We literally, we've done fizzy class together, haven't had two seconds to rub together to actually even

Jussy tells us all about the vacay in the US of A

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talk about this trip.

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Oh, it was it was so good. It was so just can I just say traveling without kids for a week?

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A vibe. It is a vibe. How good is waiting in a line without kids? I don't care about the line.

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So me and one of my best friends, Ducky, went to see um one of our other best friends, Sasha, who listens to the potty. Oh, and I hey Sash, happy birthday! My gorgeous Sash, has never done fizzy in her life, is just a dedicated listener. She I got in her car so funny. We got in her car in San Francisco. She's like, oh, I gotta catch up in the latest episode. And so I'm listening to us in the past.

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Jesus, for the love of God, don't make me.

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I was like, oh god, I just want to spew with my mouth. Oh, hi Sash. Hi Sash. I miss you. Um, so it was so good. Yes, it is a vibe, but uh my children and our barnacles. Um back for the city. Velcro kids. Yeah, so it was amazing. We went over for Sash's um to like for her 40th, because she is one of the Bubbies in the group and she just turned 40, so we went over there. How fun. She's lived there for three years, her, her husband, and her two gorgeous boys. Um, yeah, and we just literally just hung around. So we had I'd been to San Francisco before with um my husband Carl for a bit at our honeymoon. Didn't overly rate it. I was like, meh, whatever. But you go with local locals, they know stuff.

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Oh, seeing a city with a local is a completely different experience.

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When in driverless cars, that was so cool. It was so fun. Yeah. Did um I made them, I was the biggest punish. I made them do um fizzy poses all over San Francisco. But Sash being Sash and Ducky are so funny. They're so fantastic. They're like, no, okay, we're gonna do it again. We're doing it again. We're gonna go with this iconic shot and this iconic shot. I knew they'd be coaching behind the scenes.

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I knew that they'd also make sure that you got the pieces. Oh, I wasn't even allowed to go.

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I was like, okay, I'm done now. They're like, nope, no, haven't got the shot. No, haven't got the shot. But um, so we did some touristy traps, you know, did all the things. But do you like my shirt? I bloody love it. So if anyone's been to San Francisco

Chonkers is Stevos new BFF

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before, see if you can see it in this. Um, if you go down to Fisherman's Wharf, there's sea, like sea lions, seals everywhere, right? And there's a big fat one. A big bigger than everyone else. Bigger than everyone called Chonkers. And I loved it. So I saw this shirt and I was like, I want it.

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I love it.

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So I went and got it. So then I went, like, we're in the touristy trap and I was like, I'm getting it. Then Sasha bought one, and then Sasha bought one for her husband, Tim, and then Ducky bought one, and then Ducky bought one for her partner, and I was like, well, my husband won't wear it, but you know who would wear one?

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Shut up, don't make me cry. Oh my little, my little cohort.

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So

Renee is crying over a t-shirt

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just have a little look in the back there.

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Oh, she's crying.

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Chunkers! We're chunkers twins. I was literally looking at your shirt going, I kind of love that shirt.

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Yeah.

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So I should have all laughed about it. She's like, surely. I was like, oh, we gotta get Renee one. So now we know I was I'm captain of Purple House. Well, I did know this, and I was like vibing. I was like, she's a purple gown. I am. Um so now you have your Chonka shirt. That's so cool. So you could be in our Chunkers crew. I can't believe I cried. I know, it's just really funny. But so that was it, and then yeah, came home. Poor Ducky got the flu. Um no. I was fine. I wore it, I was that girl, I wore a mask or something.

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On the plane. Did you wear one over?

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Nah. No, no, Ducky made me s some essential oil crack in my nose. I don't know. Sometimes I just go, I will do your tin foil hat stuff. Um, but I it was good actually. Yeah, you rated it. It was good. We had the best time, easy breezy getting through cut like we had the dream run into the US, out of the US.

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Did you have a drink on the flight?

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Did I? Yeah. Oh, did I? I can't remember. Oh, maybe. But we had a dream run going in, perfect weather. We got told because San Francisco is really windy and cold in summer. It can be a bit patchy. Oh no, it's known to be cold. Oh in summer. Yeah, because all the wind picks up, because it's very, very windy. Bummy, 27 degrees. Everyone stopped us and they're like, You guys are so lucky. You got the weather. Oh, great! They love Australians over there. They're very, very, very nice people, people from San Francisco.

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Yeah, they say that Australians are most suited. Like, if you put all the countries into America, we would be California. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Australians are Californians.

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Oh, we are. And but San Francisco is just as they're just a different breed as well. A lot of people are transient there, but they were just so like it was so funny. Sasha was telling us they compliment you all

SFers love to compliment

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the time. Yeah. If you have a bad day, hang out with an American, just go, just go live there. They'll stop you in the middle of the street and go, oh, love your fit, love this, love your hair. And I'm like, Sounds like everyone's got ADHD over here. It was great. So approval seeking everywhere. It's it's fantastic. So highly recommend came back and now I'm back. So when I was away, yeah, I started watching the Kylie.

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Did you watch

The Kylie Doco... we discuss

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it on the plane?

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No, when he got home.

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What do you think?

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So she's funny.

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Oh yeah.

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She never really I didn't know much about Kylie.

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I know, she doesn't, she's been pretty private up until this moment, really. Like you don't really get to know her. Like she's not a social media whore.

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Nah. She's funny. Danny, very funny. Yes. Care for her. I was like, yes. Great fun.

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They I reckon it would have been a pretty funny relationship between them for a while.

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Oh, yeah. Do you reckon they were like?

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They seem to they seem to have handled it alright. I think so. But there were just times when they were really young, like that whole Johnny Young talent time. And I was and then, you know, then Kylie's on neighbours, and like they're sort of like outdoing each other a little bit, and then Kylie takes off. But I'm like, I wonder if there was a period there where they're a bit like this is my thing.

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Oh I know. She's like, no, you're the actress. I'm the singer. Yeah. She's like, no.

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Now we're gonna do all of it.

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Very beautiful.

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I've got a question for you after having watched it. What's your take on um Pete?

Pete is a bloody dingbat

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Pete? Who's Pete? Pete, the producer, like the guy, the old English guy at the start. Punch him in the face. I wanna fucking kill that man. He is so incompetent. He is so bad at his job. Honest to God, I'm sorry, I'm sorry if there's boys listening right now. Cover your ears. But honest to God, all of these men in executive positions in the 80s and 90s were so highly incompetent of doing anything properly. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, yeah. No, he the it's it was very much like, you know, just the quintessential, what you can imagine a record label executive would be.

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I just can't even imagine the incompetence. I didn't live in that era. Like I was literally, I turned five in 1990, so I was very not a sentient being in the 80s. Yeah. I cannot even imagine what it would have been like to be a woman living in that world. Oh yeah. We have come such a bloody.

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Oh, I know, and we thank you, we thank you, people we thank you, women who came before us.

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I mean, we are working more than ever. I don't like that part of it. You can put your your big lighter down away from your bra on

Stop burning your bras, please.

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that one. Fucking don't really like working. Normalise that. Normalise women working. Whose idea was that? Fuck, I'm so stressed. Yeah, I just think I just felt she was really unprotected. Oh yeah. I wanted to grab that baby girl and just say, I'm gonna be a manager. You speak to nobody. Yeah, no one gets access to you. Yeah, everyone's coming to meet.

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Where was her manager? I know, I don't she didn't have one.

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She didn't have one, it wouldn't have even been a fucking thing back then. Yeah. You just have these little starlets, highly sexualized looking young people running around with no one watching them. And I for her credit, she was 18 when she left Australia.

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She was young.

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She was an adult. But I'm sorry to those 19-year-olds who are listening to us, you're a you're a baby.

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They are, they're babies. The five 19-year-olds are listening to us, they have now turned out and they're like, Well, I will not biddies.

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I know the juniors at our club are listening to us. I know, I don't feel like too much for that. Now I'm thinking about your mum, like girls, stop swearing, and I'm like, oh Steph.

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Oh, sorry, Steph.

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Yeah, there are young girls listening to us. Apologies. Another question. Yeah. Jason Donovan. Oh god. Just can't.

Jas... Jas, Jas, Jas.

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Do you know what? I okay, so this is I watching the you gotta understand the lens I was watching this in, right? I realised when I was watching, I barely know anything about her life. And so for him, I didn't I didn't know they were together. Either do so when I was first watching him, I was like, the guy from neighbours. Well, yes, but also I was like, you seem like a bit of a bitter bitch. What are you so bitter about?

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And then I went, oh and then it got into it.

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I was like, oh you're 40 years later, and we still hold in a nasty grudge.

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I feel sorry for I feel bad.

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I feel bad for him. Like after seeing everything that went out, I was like, oh mate, like you're in love and he got.

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And his career just didn't hold a candle to hers. No, like but he's very bitter. It's a combination of bitter and maybe he back then was a bit basic.

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Is he basic?

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I don't know.

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I don't really know the first thing about it. Oh, yeah, yeah.

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He was just like But I I can just see like he said, you know, I could I could have definitely seen us getting married, having a couple of kids, and I was like Dole Face. She won't man in the 80s, man. That was so far behind. And full credit to us, we hadn't stepped up into the world yet, really, compared to what we're all doing now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks, bra burners. He was also a little bit incom not incompetent, just he wasn't as bright a star as a big thing.

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Oh no, yeah.

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And like and he thought they were gonna get married and have kids and live a suburban life. I know, I know. So I can see why he's upset because I think he probably feels very blindsided by the whole thing.

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Yeah, that's what I mean. Like because I didn't know all of that when I was watching. My first, literally, my first thought that went through my head when I heard him start talking, I went, Why are you so bitter? But then they were like following the journey.

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And I was like, oh I didn't know they were together either. I thought they were just married on the show. That's what I thought. I was like, ah, because when everyone talks about Scott and Charlene, they're actually talking about the fact that they were actually together as well. I that went over my head. Yeah, oh we are not children, we're children of the 90s. We too we

Children of the 90s here

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like to say we dabbled in the 80s, but we've got no idea what and watching that documentary actually cemented it for me that I'm not a child of the 80s because I don't this is so far out of my like imagination of how incompetent someone could be. Pete, man, you are so bad at your job. Um I just don't like that they put a lot of her success down to the people who were around her.

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Yeah.

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Like the men are all taking the credit for what she achieved. And like that bloke

Kylie is the QWEEN

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hadn't even written her a song. Oh, I know. And she'd flown all the way from Australia and was on neighbours, which is very popular in his own country. He was so fucking incompetent. It's like, how are you living under a rock? Oh even the BBC called him.

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I know it's just gonna be on top of the that's huge. She was invited to be on top of the pops.

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After recording one song. I wish I was a single, she recorded one song. She had never even released a bloody album yet.

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I know.

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Yeah. She was she's amazing, she's a queen, and um also there was no strategy behind the way she was being managed. Nah. Um, and then she was criticized for that as well. I know. In an era when no one talked about mental health. I know. That would have been so hard. Oh. Everyone talks about their mental health now.

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I know.

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I'm having a bloody mental breakdown every day. Well, that's as many notes as I made on that.

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That's far we got.

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No, like I to be fair, I I like like I liked it. I was like watching it, but I don't know about you. I got to, you know, it was three episodes, four.

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Uh, I only watched two, but I felt like I got the flow. You can tell me I'll keep going.

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Well, like don't you know? No, watch it. I'm not gonna ruin it for you, but honestly, I'll let you watch it. So, you know, because people also may have not have um finished it. Well about what you're doing. I watched the last one and went. Oh, is that it? Oh

Stop. Ubruptly.

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shit. Like, I went, Well, I I'm so confused. They did a really good job, I think, in the first two, three episodes of like really well-rounded talking about the particular moments, eras in her so well done. God, he's hot. Then I was like, Oh, quick, we're just gonna round this up in like 15 minutes. Someone phoned it in to the email that went, I'm I'm bored, I'm done.

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I've got ADHD in this project's got real boring. We're just done now. That is legitimate is Kylie still alive? She's still with us?

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I I had to rewind. I was like, rewind because I'm on a VHS.

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I had to.

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Oh, maybe we are children of the 80s.

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I had to rewatch it. I'm like, have I missed something? And I'm waiting if they're gonna do a second draw. I don't, I I could not know if I genuinely couldn't tell you what the last episode was about.

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Oh, maybe they might even bring out another one and you'd be like, oh well, at least we're getting our ending now.

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Maybe it's not over. I highly recommend watching it. And like I was laughing because my first it was either my first year or Carla's first year when she did Fizzy, it was better the devil, you know. And that was the dance song. But I think mine was the Adam Sfam League. Oh no! No, not that. You know that fuck so no. How'd you do fizzy to that? No, you know, I think it was MC Hammer. Do what you want to do, say what you want to say, live how you want to play perfectly. Yeah, yeah, that I think it was for the movie. Someone recorded. Oh, right.

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They did that. The Adam's Family movie, not the TV show from like 1900. I was like, how the hell do you do fizzy to that? Oh, so good. Oh, good to be back together. Oh my god.

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With the K that actually, that episode with Kia, at least it actually sounded like like this this is just rambling, but I promise it's not, guys. So if you please don't tune out. No.

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We're getting somewhere. We've got a big we've got lots to talk about.

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We do, and we have a big guest. He's gonna be here.

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I know. I was very nervous talking to her, actually.

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Why? Oh, she's a big deal. She is a big deal. She's a real big deal. She is a very deal.

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I mean, I had no reason to be nervous, but I just felt like I was in the presence of greatness.

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Well, well, speaking of greatness, let's see, let's see if people can see these. Oh, you know.

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Nothing special happening around here, just uh having a drink with my trophy.

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Just drinking some cans with some cups. Oh, do you reckon she'd be upset if I put a can in the cup? I don't think she'd care. So these are these are ours now.

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Yeah, they're ours.

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Because we can't get cups. We can get lots of cans.

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You can fit a lot of cans in this cup. I'll show you. Oh my god. Tastes like success.

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So sacrilegious. Oh, we're gonna get banned.

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Tastes so much better out of a cup.

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We ought to know. This is the closest we're ever getting to cups. Alright.

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This is as close as I'm ever getting to a

Renee does a "Physie Shooey"

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cup.

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You ladies had asked. And we deliver.

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Oh, we absolutely do.

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We deliver for our potty fans.

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I don't think that we have brought the goods on this. We have brought the goods. I'll eat my hat.

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I'll eat my hat. I'll throw down fizzy. So, our guest here will be joining us today. She started Fizzy at the age of three. She wasn't actually a fan of fizzy, funnily enough, um, when she was younger. And she yeah, she used to drag her, um, she used to get her two sisters to come on the floor with her.

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Oh, wow. Well, she's starting at three though.

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Yeah, was was not a fan.

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I don't think many three-year-olds would be maxed out on going a fizzy.

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Yeah, she is an associate and she has been an associate for 17 years. Wow. Yeah. Um she has had a fair few accolades under her belt, as you can imagine, over the time. The highlights of it would be um winning open champion girl in 2017. So if people are doing the trivia, they might start guessing on who that who that potentially was. Yep. Then probably her biggest one is um winning ladies' overall grand in 2022. So this is well and truly narrowing it down, people who know their fizzy trivia. She's currently at Brisbane Water United and runs it with her mum and the rest of the fizzy team. It is Miss Natalie Allen. This episode of that Physical Culture Podcast is proudly brought to you by Instinctive Health.

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We are joined in the studio by none other than Miss Natalie Allen.

Welcome, Ms Natalie Allan!

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And we've got, and she's been so lovely and has um lent us um all of her heaps of her accolades, so we're milking it.

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It's amazing. I'm so excited. You're gonna find out all the things that we did with cups.

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Can't wait. And we love you for bringing that in. We had cans and then we've hung out with cups. We've hang hung out with cups. Okay, so as we're mentioning, everyone marching is a beast until itself. Yep.

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Yeah.

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No one could do it. We're all struggling.

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And it also seems like it doesn't matter how long you've been in fizzy. It's hard, right? It just seems like

You never nail your marching

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you never it's like, you know, you talk about the white white like it is the white whale. Like but even if you've done it for as long as you've done it, I think you've mastered it. But you know, there'd be other people that have been doing it a very long time that have said to me, I still am working on my march.

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Absolutely. And it it's I think when we were like doing the stuff this morning, I no matter how long you've done it for, I still feel that there's always something to fix, or there's always something that might fall off the bandwagon. Or, you know, there's something you can still work on, whether it be stamina, like put your toes a little bit harder, you know, push your turn out a little bit more. Yeah. I still feel like you've got to think about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

Do you think it's one of the hardest things to do in fizzy?

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Marching.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

I think that and um mastering obviously the musicality

It is the hardest part of physie

SPEAKER_01 23:36

of the the the fizzy and getting like, you know, your finger-wrist sort of arm movements. I think they're probably the hardest things to master, but marching, most definitely.

SPEAKER_04 23:44

I think it's also when you get um like bad habits stuck in.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

And I think where they they catch people is because the music is always so varied. It is! Yeah, so you can't get it.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

The beats are always gonna be a little bit different. You're never gonna find two songs that have got like you spend, you know, ten months of the year getting comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Yeah. And then the next year they just go, Oh, well, here you go. Here's four tracks that are completely different in tempo and bass and all of that, and then you go, Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 24:14

It's gonna learn it again, right? Good old fizzy gods always keeping us on our toes.

SPEAKER_03 24:19

And that isn't true at um when you go to nationals, then they go, Hey, yeah, we're now just gonna throw completely different music at you. And you also don't know what it is, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Yeah, for sure. So you generally what they seem to do is they'll either like do a bit of a mix of music, so they might like they don't tell

Curve balls everywhere

SPEAKER_01 24:38

you what they're gonna use, but they'll use like maybe a track from the current music, or they'll pick a track from the marching CD twenty years ago. Really? Yeah, yeah. And then when you say you get to like grand, like say Ladies Grand, they picked the last time I competed in Ladies Grand, they picked um a grand piece that used to be played on piano, but it was like the soundtrack version, and you just have to be able to pick it up. Wow. You get you get one chance to listen to it at the back, and then you They're like, and go. Yeah, it's like everyone listen up, you've got one chance to listen to it, and then that's it. Wow.

unknown 25:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

They do that.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

That's a shame.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Supposed to be you, and March.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

And they do that with like, have you did I don't know if you I don't know if they did it last year because I wasn't there to watch, but um the year before they changed the warm-up song.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

Okay. What? No, okay. One of my many. Oh my god, yeah. But in saying this, this is when I said I was doing my running commentary during the um because I was so confused, right? So what they did was for some reason the warm-up was double time. And I didn't

Warm Up in double time

SPEAKER_03 25:51

understand, I was like, what is it? What's happening running?

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Did you do the warm-up when it was um the Dance the Night song? Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

That's not the one I watched last year, but yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Yeah, but that was the year before, and at the back they said, all right, the warm-up's gonna be a different bit different. You can either mark it or you can do it full out, but you've got one chance to listen to it, and this is what you're going out onto the floor to do with Brandon. It was the same song but completely different tempo. Yeah, yeah, and so we all just went, Oh, okay. Yeah. And yeah, played it once, and then we went and did it.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

They did it last year, they did it double time.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Why are you doing me like that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

And then for some reason I think the swing was slow, and I was like, Yeah, they they might throw in like an acoustic version of it.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Oh, whoa, what?

SPEAKER_03 26:34

I was like, this is not hard enough.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

And then they're like already so hard.

SPEAKER_03 26:39

Stop it. It's just like we're really good. What's that um saying where you're like, it's the um finding the men amongst the boys or whatever that stupid saying is?

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Oh, it's too hard already. It's so hard. Okay, as we allude to Yes, so marching. But they do the same with marching, so then they sort of, you know, I often say to my girls when I'm teaching, I'm like, right, this week we're gonna do marches from the current tracks, or next week we're gonna focus on

Make sure you mix up the tempo

SPEAKER_01 27:03

marches. Generally they're broken down in like, you know, fives to twelves at marches, one to fifteen. Um, thirteens to seniors and marches, sixteen to twenty-five. And then ladies are, you know. So then I'll say to them, you know, next week we're gonna focus on the marches on the marching CD because if in a clubs generally they'll play the marches from the the syllabus. Yeah, the syllabus music, um, but then come seniors day or ladies it it it can be anything.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

Oh, so they can.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Oh, they can play whatever they want. They run the show, right? So they could play whatever they want. Um, so they m they'll they might play yeah, some from the current music or they'll play some of the piano music. So you get the ones without the you know, with no words and just music. Um so they've got to be really versatile, they've got to be out of you, you gotta know what to how to hear about. Okay, so you've got to practice with tempos. And like sometimes it might not be a bad idea to trick your girls and play a five-year-old march so they know how to march really fast.

SPEAKER_04 27:58

It sounds insane, but I feel like it's um, you know, trying to shake up those that are getting like stuck in perfection during the year to yeah, to see if you can do it. Let's change it up and see how you go, because that shows greatness.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Absolutely, and it's definitely a thing where I have girls that march really well to slow music, but not really well to fast music. They can't cannot coordinate a faster beat. So they're ones that need to practice those tracks.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

Do you know that's actually a really good um it's a really good advice because a few people were saying, you know, how do I get better not tripping over my own feet and things like that, or on the corners and things. So your one of your advice is is kind of just play around with music, play around with tempo.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

If you're if you're really good at marching to a slow track, yeah, and you're good with the sort of slow strides and the that sort of tempo, then park those for a while. Okay and and focus on the faster tempo music, focus on the those heavier beaded songs because you obviously need to you know you you can't coordinate those as well. So so work on those a bit more and then come back to the ones that you could seem to be able to grab the beat of the music better.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

Um and I do that with my girls often, like because I know which ones of them don't you know seem to be able to catch those faster ones better, or some of those girls that have really tall, long legs, they march beautifully to those slower um songs because they've got more time to stretch out. Whereas a shorter, like a faster, shorter sort of beat song doesn't suit them because their legs are too long and they're like chopping them off.

SPEAKER_04 29:31

There's just so much of pushing yourself into areas where you don't feel comfortable. That's what fizzy is kind of all about getting yourself out of your comfort zone

Stay out of the comfort zone

SPEAKER_04 29:43

and it makes it quite a long and hard year. But I get it, I get it, and that's why I love it. Yeah, but also it's just never gets easier. No, no, even when you're getting better, you'll find something else that you need to work with.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

You find the next thing, and then you find the next thing. Yeah. And even like, you know, your your your champions are fizzy, no one's ever perfect. So they'd be doing the same thing. It's like, okay, well, what can I fix next? Doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_03 30:15

Perfectionism so doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

It it doesn't. It doesn't. And like people say, you know, practice makes perfect, but I I like where's perfect?

SPEAKER_04 30:24

Fizy kind of feels like um the chase of perfection.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:28

But it's uh it's uninsured. And because it's such a subjective spot.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like as you know, I mean, as a competitor and someone who's judged that idea of perfection in in my eyes is different to someone else who might judge the same flaw.

SPEAKER_04 30:44

Because there's taste involved.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Yeah, because it's so subjective.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

Yeah, that's so true.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

You know, we we oh yeah, it's it's uh

Judging is subjective. Now say that again.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

everyone have a nice long exhale after hearing that like, yeah, this is what we all signed up to, sister.

SPEAKER_03 30:57

I know. Alright, so there's been some main themes that came out of when we reached out to all the community and said, tell us your challenges. Now, don't worry, people, we have recorded video of NATs. There's heaps of video that we're gonna be able to release and show and everything like that. But we thought we'd also just cover off the themes that we can kind of talk to on the podcast as well. So, um, one of the main things that we had is around corners. How we nail a corner, a lot of people falling out of corners. Now, you gave us some really great advice on the video.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Um so I I myself just I don't know, it just happens. I just take my corner, and there's been a few people in time that have sort of sat there and gone, what are you doing? How do you do that?

SPEAKER_04 31:44

What are you doing there?

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Um and I I think I said this morning, there's been two um girls that I teach that have been able to master it, one of my ladies and one of my seniors. Um and then one of my friends actually from Oak Hill Fizy Club, one of their teachers, she's like, The way you turn your corner, how do you do it? I don't I don't really know. But then when I was like, I'm gonna

Let's talk corners

SPEAKER_01 32:03

think about this and try and teach my girls how to do it. Um to take out that bounce that a lot of us get in the corner, you know, we march, march, march, we're up and then we turn our corner and then we sort of step off it and keep going. You don't want that to happen because you want your march to glide, like you're just sort of walking on water and nothing sort of breaks that um you I find that on that like sort of last three steps I start to rise up off the ground and hit that corner, and and that gives me my balance as I'm as I'm leaving the floor. And then when I hit that corner, I've I've got my balance now because I've given myself the chance to get it as I'm slowly coming up to that corner, and as I've hit that corner, I'm able to turn it nice and controlled and then slowly turn it up.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

Yeah, I'm getting up to climatizing tomatoes, guys.

SPEAKER_04 32:54

I need to make a couple of days before I get up there.

SPEAKER_03 32:57

You might, because you're a bloody Amazon warrior.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

And yeah, I think it just gives you the chance to sort of you know get yourself also grounded. Yeah. And also make it look smooth. So you're not going from this flat floor to this like sort of like jack in the box, kind of poking yourself out and then coming back out of it.

SPEAKER_04 33:22

Yeah, no, you do need to take a bit of time. Like I get that now.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Yeah, and it helps you not fall out of it. So when you watch the video, if you haven't seen Nat do her corners, she shows us. But you do like when you do the rise up and you're descending back down, it does help when you're not just so much falling straight out of it.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

And it maintains that really nice like control.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:44

Um it means you've also gotten up to the height that you need to get to so that you actually all you do is bring your arms in. Because when you go up and arms in at the same time, it looks because you're doing a few things there, but if you're doing one and then two, it's yeah, and everything kind of just happens.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

You don't see this like definite because you get that some people write that they kind of like their arms in a bit like you know how EP do their corners out and then in. Yeah, we try that. They swing around their corner. I was gonna say I've not ever been able to now that I've tried. That's quite difficult. But some people get that look happening, and I find if you can get this rise and fall, it stops that from semi-happening. Because we can't do that in BJP, right? That's not how we turn it out. It's not the dumb thing. Um it just kind of all sort of slowly happens and it just turns into this nice, you know, yeah, graceful. But tip, don't leave your head to the front when you turn your head. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:42

Someone asked this. We are taking our everybody, we're taking our head.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Don't leave your head. Do not leave your head.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

They don't.

Don't leave your head on the corner

SPEAKER_00 34:50

You heard it. It's not like they don't like it. They can see you already.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

We know what you look like.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

Yeah, you don't need to be pining after extra attention.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

Oh, you looking at me. If you have a good march, they can see you.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

Um well, that's why I remember when you were saying, Oh, yeah, so I went to an interclub and at the end of it I was like, I thought I did really well.

SPEAKER_04 35:15

I didn't even place and she didn't even body look at me the whole time. And my my mate Beck goes, how do you know that she didn't look at you the whole time?

SPEAKER_00 35:23

And I go, because I was looking at her. Don't look at them.

SPEAKER_04 35:28

She goes, Oh my god, you're not meant to look at the judges. And I'm that's where you went, no one told me that.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

And like as a person who's judged too, that someone looks at you and goes, Oh, they're looking at me.

SPEAKER_04 35:39

Yes. I'm not looking at you again. I had no idea. I thought we were all meant to be looking at the judges. I thought everyone was looking at them. I was the only one.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

You were the only one.

SPEAKER_03 35:52

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

But yeah, don't turn your corner and look.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Don't turn your corner and look, that's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

I reckon if you're in the A column, if you look at them. Oh, sorry, see you later.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

Oh, there you go. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna touch on judging at the end. Um, okay. Which you touched on this. How do you s how we uh how are we perfecting smoothing our march? How are we getting rid of the bounce? What do you think it comes

Gliiide, gliiide, gliiide

SPEAKER_03 36:18

from? Is it we gotta lock our Yeah, so lock visuals, right?

SPEAKER_01 36:24

So I think I said to you guys this morning, I think of like bricks on my shoulders. So lengthening here in my neck, making a big space here. And I use the same visual from fives to ladies, blowing up their balloon in their neck, so pushing up this open space, bricks on their shoulders, and then really driving through the floor through your heels. So even though you're stepping like forward through each step, and yes, your feet are gonna leave the floor, try and counteract a bit of weight through your back heels so you're not bouncing up out of that heel. So as you're taking that step, the opposing foot still gets semi-grounded. Or even if you're visualizing that it's pushing through the floor, it kind of automatically will because you're thinking about that and it'll push back and it stops you from being able to bounce out of it. Yep. Um, and a really like just fun you know activity to do when you're marching is put it pop a piece of paper on your head and march. And if that piece of paper doesn't fall, then you've done it. You've done a nice smooth march.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

Try to bring in like reams of paper now.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

I mean, you could do you could use you could use like a little beanbag or something, but that's heavy, so it's not gonna fall off. No, yeah, it's like you want to.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

You want something that could easily fall off.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

Yeah, that'll just like puff of air and it'll fall off. So pop a piece of paper in your head and then like just keep go like keep doing it over and over and over again. And then if it's now not falling off, you know that you've you've got a nice smooth march.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

And how do you do then that pull up? You know, people like pull up.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

Big bra works.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

Big bra, and like air out of like if you pull up out of your hip bones, like to bring your your torso up, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

Um lots of lots of core. Like it's all I think it's all in your core and it's yeah, and all in that neck. Like I've really pushed my chin, push my neck up and out. So, like I said this morning, find that join, like visualize your wall and your roof meeting, and find the join in that, find that corner, and if you project your chin up to that, you're pretty much going to be exactly where it needs to be. And you don't need to be in a room that it's right in front of you, right? If you just visualize that, you you're gonna meet the mark.

SPEAKER_04 38:31

And then what like what is it about having your head up in that angle that's so visually pleasing, do you think?

SPEAKER_01 38:39

It just keeps you in that nice line, right? Like

It's all about alignment

SPEAKER_01 38:42

if you draw a line from the top of your head down to your heels, like yeah, the top of your head's in line with the top of your ears, which is then in line with your shoulders, in line with your hips, in line with your feet. It just looks so visually appealing. Like if you if your chins forward and your necks forward, it breaks that line. Yeah, the second you put it up and pull your neck back, it's all in line. Yeah, um, which when we practiced this morning, it was so visually pleasing.

SPEAKER_04 39:05

Oh, I haven't seen it yet.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

Oh, you wait, you're gonna find yourself, you're just gonna just jizz over your phone. It was so you were like it's very, it's very looked at it. It's very nice to look at in the world.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

Like it's it's it's beautiful to look at, and then as soon as you move, it's quite hard to then hold it. Yeah, we said we're just gonna hold it like that till it's like that's why like it's really important to like I said this morning, you sort of break it down from here.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

And then to here. Because there's so much to think about, right? Like it's like this is enough in itself, because then when this starts to move, this goes, oh.

SPEAKER_04 39:40

Well, I said, I said when I was in the right position, I was like, let's weekend burning this and

Weekend At Bernies until Zone

SPEAKER_04 39:46

just put me on a dolly and wheel me into zone or stay in position for the rest of the year.

SPEAKER_03 39:53

Not perfected for me's stance, and she's like, now what? Now what? I can't do it. I'm not gonna move up in a couple more.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

We'll be back soon.

SPEAKER_04 40:02

Not from Edelong Public School in a few months.

SPEAKER_03 40:06

All right, back arm swing. I don't like never thought about this ever until I started fizzy, and I have never thought about the the trajectory and the height that my back arm has to go. Yeah, and I'm walking.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

It doesn't always do the same job as the front arm.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

What the hell?

SPEAKER_04 40:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:24

When you put it like that, it makes marching sound like the strangest concept. It is the strangest concept, though, isn't it? If someone had no idea what fizzy was and they walked

It is the weirdest thing in Physie

SPEAKER_01 40:33

in to us marching, it's this whole group of women dressed up walking around a room dancing. That's all anyone talks about when you go. Yeah, like do you guys do that marching thing? I'm not sure. But yes, we do.

SPEAKER_03 40:46

And it's really hard.

SPEAKER_04 40:47

It's really hard. I always say, and there's five dances after that march.

SPEAKER_01 40:51

It's not just marching well. Even though marching looks silly, it's the hardest one we do as well.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Yeah, and it's so hard. They're like, but you're just walking around in a square. I'm like, oh, we're finally doing it.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Go for it. Go have fun and see if you can do away. You'll be able to after taking it. Alright, so how are we doing this? So, how are we doing this? Okay, so everything in busy is your shapes and lines. So everything's got to have a nice line, everything's got to make a shape, and primarily all the shapes you make are triangles.

SPEAKER_00 41:18

So

Sick for triangles

SPEAKER_00 41:20

they love it.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

Like everything you're doing. Sick for a triangle.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Someone was really excited about it.

SPEAKER_03 41:25

They're triangles.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

So when you make a triangle one way, you want it to look the same the other. You don't want to have like lopsided.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

I get it.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

You know, especially say say like forget marching for a second. Say you're at hips firm. You don't want your hips firm triangle to be like this on one side and like that on another.

SPEAKER_03 41:43

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

So if you bring if you bring it back to marching, you want to be the same front and back. Symmetrical. So which means if you um like explained this morning, if you swing forward and use your thumb as the point to find your hip, then you're gonna be too low. You want your pinky to be at the level of your hip, right? But then if you swing that back and use your pinky to find your hip, you're gonna be too low. Yeah, you want your thumb to find your hip because they're in different places. But because you're in the front, you it it's it's gonna be different. You need to come that little bit further up. Up. And then if you're gonna be at the back, you need to come a little bit further up.

SPEAKER_03 42:21

Do you know what's so funny? When you were telling me this this morning, showing me I was not understanding this, and now I get it what you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 42:28

Well, I'm I'm where you were right then, which also.

SPEAKER_03 42:30

No, it makes sense that you're saying the height of your hip.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Yeah, the height of and the height of your hand.

SPEAKER_02 42:35

So, like You are not following. Forget your bit.

SPEAKER_01 42:41

Forget that bit. But your thumb and I'm thinking and I'm talking about the the the pinch and making your triangles match. Yeah. So when you do hips firm, your triangles have to match. When you do marching, your triangles have to match. Front and back in your arm swing, right? So this triangle matches if my pinky's in line with my hip at the front. But if I it heightwise. But if I was to swing my arm back and line up my pinky with my hip at the back, it wouldn't be the same triangle height wise. So I need to push my hand back a little bit further to have my thumb in line with my hip. So then height wise, the triangles now match.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

That's why I said everyone's got to get out of like a protractor.

SPEAKER_00 43:21

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

Yeah, mind blown.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Yes. Wow. Because if you don't, like that's that's like, you know, the width of your hands. That's that much different. It's getting your arm quite a fair way back.

SPEAKER_03 43:33

It's you have to push your arm back further than you think you do.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

So I'm I'm always on my girl, I was like, swing back further, swing back further. Yeah, further, further. And they're like, Oh, isn't that too far? I'm like, nope. Because that's a lot.

SPEAKER_03 43:43

Yeah, it's a lot. It's like a good, what, it's an inch?

SPEAKER_00 43:46

You know, maybe ten centimetres. Inch.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

How old are you?

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Christian Bajolky Peterson.

SPEAKER_04 43:56

We used to drink together. Oh my god,

SPEAKER_00 44:02

It's mind being.

SPEAKER_03 44:03

Yeah. But once you kind of un yeah, once you've explained it and you understand it, then you'd be more mindful of it, right? So it's and probably doing in front of like a m well, you can't really do it in front of a mirror. You probably have to recall.

SPEAKER_04 44:14

It's sort of kind of what you said today when we were talking, you were like, if it feels silly, you're probably doing it right.

If it feels silly, you're doing it right.

SPEAKER_04 44:20

And that's where it applies.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

And it and you know, if you if you then change something right and then you start doing it right, it's gonna feel silly. It's like that's because now you're doing it right.

SPEAKER_04 44:28

Yeah. Well, what an unlock. Even even just even just to be just like open to know. Yeah, like if you feel like this is ridiculous, you've actually nailed it. Yeah. Everyone feels stupid, that's the whole point. I'm gonna go to class in a different vibe this week. Oh, you got I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

Your teacher's gonna think like you're marching in grand.

SPEAKER_02 44:51

Oh, watch out, Julia. She's gonna be like, what having these two?

SPEAKER_04 44:55

We didn't tell her either, so maybe we should just rock up and just see what she says. If she says something, we'll text you. Yeah, we'll let you know.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

What happened? What about you two?

SPEAKER_03 45:06

Yeah, I know, hopefully. We've been like we've been frozen like this since Saturday.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

We haven't moved. We haven't moved.

SPEAKER_03 45:13

Um, facials.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:15

What are we doing with that face?

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Uh pleasant. Pleasant's. Um, okay, I Simpson's face. So this this morning. So Simpson characters have this like

Simpson's Face

SPEAKER_01 45:26

pleasant look on their face when they're not talking or they're not smiling. It's like this little cheesy grin. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

What did you say this morning, Renee?

SPEAKER_04 45:34

You were like, um I called it a smile.

SPEAKER_03 45:37

Smise. No, didn't you say you were like a cheeky, you're like, I've no Oh, um, I know something you don't know.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

Yeah, like I know something you don't know.

SPEAKER_03 45:46

No, but we're not we don't because we don't show teeth.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

No, you never smile with your teeth.

SPEAKER_03 45:50

Never smile without tea.

SPEAKER_01 45:51

Like looking at them when you're marching, don't smile with your teeth.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

Don't smile with your teeth.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

You're just doing a you know and you're walking around like, um, I've got a little secret. I've got tea. Wait, shall I tea? I've got tea. I've got tea.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

It's like when you're sitting across the lunch, like the the table in the lunchroom with your friend, and you're like, Oh my god, I've got tea. I've got tea for you. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 46:14

There we go.

SPEAKER_04 46:14

I can make that face real easy. I'm a master at that face.

SPEAKER_01 46:20

Like that one. Or like when when the person walks in and you're like, you know. So that's what we're doing. And clench your teeth, because then you can't smile. Clench your teeth?

SPEAKER_03 46:31

Yeah, cubs tells us she puts um gummy bears in her.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

I've done Tic Tacs, but that's so my that's so my mouth doesn't get dry. Oh, yeah, something to suck on. And I've got to be. I've had them in my bra before and like whack change lines. Yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_03 46:46

I'm getting we're getting uh showing. It's like a merry pocket.

SPEAKER_04 46:50

People are doing mouth sprays well.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

I meant to I don't think that would fit in my bra.

SPEAKER_04 46:54

Like, no, before you go out, there's a like a mouth spray, apparently, you can do from the chemist. Dry mouth spray. Oh yeah, it's probably made for old people.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

Tic tacks work pretty well, but you just gotta know where to find them so you're not like just chopping down there, like digging your head.

SPEAKER_03 47:11

Discreen.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

No, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 47:14

Alright, we briefly spoke about head positioning, but let's talk about it in a little bit more detail. So we're doing the balloon.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

Yeah, so blow up your balloons the best visual to or

Keepy Uppey

SPEAKER_01 47:24

show your lipstick. Like all little girls love to be like, I've got lipstick on. So like point your lipstick at the judges.

unknown 47:31

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

Like, look at this, like this is beautiful. I like that, you know? Or like open your heart. Because instantly if you felt like that. Yes, it's just expanding. Um, but the balloon theory does work really well. Like, if you picture this balloon forcing your neck up, forcing your neck and I like that. It puts it makes you lift it. It does because like I'm like, oh my gosh, this balloon is blowing up in like and then I say to the little ones, I'm like, don't let it pop.

SPEAKER_04 47:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

I'm like, don't let it pop.

SPEAKER_04 47:59

Yeah, it's also like open your heart for someone like me whose brain isn't that well connected to their body. I could definitely be that but you're like, I wouldn't stick in. Like the balloon to me makes me really think that my chin needs to be.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

And then if I say to like even the ladies love it, it's like, don't pop it, don't let it pop, it's like, okay. Pang station. If that means get a balloons, you absolutely won't let it bow. Sounds like keepy uppy.

SPEAKER_05 48:27

I thought it was keepy uppy.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

We're playing a game of keepy uppy from blueing.

SPEAKER_05 48:33

I love blueing.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

But but if you can master that chin and neckline, it just makes it uh so much more appealing. Oh, it does. It does. It looks so and it's because it's the first thing that they see, right? When you're standing on the corner ready to march, when they've watched that first person take off, if you've got that neck and that face in a in a in a prime position, it instantly draws them in.

SPEAKER_04 48:56

And and what was it you were telling us this morning about what Fiona is?

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Yes, I was a lot of people have been asking about confidence. How you get the confidence, so talk to us.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

You had some really Yeah, yeah. So either you you trick them, right? You you say to yourself, Well, even if I don't believe it, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell them I fake it till I make it. Yeah, fake it make it basically, like I am the best one here. And as a as a judge, if even if you don't think that, but you're you're telling us that, I'm gonna believe it, whether it's true or not. It's like it's written all over your face. Yep. So fake it make it. Yep. Um or Fiona Joe, which I'm sure everyone in the fizzy world, well most people in the fizzy world know who knows. She's incredible. Um, she's come and done quite a few workshops with us. Um and I've done fizzy for such a long time, and I'd never thought of it like this. And she said, She's like, you know, you you might getting up to your corner to march, whether you're first or last. She's like, you're gonna say to yourself, she's like, You've seen the rest,

You've seen the rest, now you'll see the best - Fiona Jurd

SPEAKER_01 49:54

now you're gonna see the best. You put your head up and you take off. And I might instantly I just went it is there, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:00

Oh my god. That really connected with me.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

And it did, and as soon as she said it, I was like, Oh wow, wow! And I'm such like an internal dialogue person, so like I will tell, like, if I can tell myself something, I'll I'll I I'll be able to convince myself. So I did, I used that the last time I competed as a lady at Nationals, and it and it worked.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

I was like, absolutely like, and as soon as I stepped up, I was like, I've got this.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

You must just feel so confident.

SPEAKER_00 50:27

I I did all because of that.

SPEAKER_04 50:29

So you're amazing. So you actually, when you march out, you actually feel confident. I did. Normally I don't.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

See, normally I don't. I'm a very nervous competitor. Very nervous. I would never have picked that. Yeah, like I'm like a sh like shaking on the floor. Wow, me too.

SPEAKER_04 50:47

That makes me feel so much better. I fell over because of the shit.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Oh, I I like mimosas aren't required all morning.

SPEAKER_03 50:55

Like fast on mimosas. And so you were just like just channel that.

SPEAKER_01 51:00

And when she told me that, uh I was it was probably the the best I ever felt when I took this first marching step because I was like, it something something in it just made me go, I've got this. Yeah. And I I I I did, I guess I felt really good.

SPEAKER_04 51:17

There is a big difference between actually feeling confident and faking it till you make it.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

100%.

SPEAKER_04 51:23

It might visually look the same, but on the inside, I wouldn't I I mean the goal is to get to confidence.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

Yeah, and as far as like I suppose successes went, like you know, I've done like got a higher place than I did that year, I'd say, like, oh, you know, than I did, but I felt so good on that first step in my march, all because of this one thing she'd said, and it was the next time that I competed, you know, on such a big scale scale. Um and yeah, it it just it just worked.

SPEAKER_05 51:54

Whereas normally I am such a yeah, she wants to be gold back.

SPEAKER_04 51:59

But um give everyone a nickname.

SPEAKER_01 52:02

It was um it was, it was a moment where I just went, wow, like I I can do this.

SPEAKER_03 52:07

And you were telling us a really and this is gonna um resonate, I think, for a lot of people, especially for this little one over here. You were telling us the story how you um tripped a bit at a little bit at zone on your march, yeah, down onto your hands too.

SPEAKER_04 52:24

Well, that one was

Tripped at zone

SPEAKER_04 52:26

state.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

Um but yes, at Zone, I was in the final and my sister was marching behind me, and I've got this on video. One of the people from our club was filming the final, and mind you, it was it was um like the following year when we were still kind of in COVID, so like there wasn't that many people competing again. So I think our final had like nine people in it. Oh wow so there wasn't many on the floor. So everyone saved the floor. Everyone saw it. Um so and also I was the only one in leotard. Everyone was in titles. I had leotard and no fishnets or anything on just leotard. And I've marched across the back and I've turned the corner to march down the front, and I I tripped and like I stumbled, and then I I did pick it up. But on the video that I've got in the background, they go, Oh, ooh, that's a bad chief.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

In my head, I also went, oh because it's poor poor Renee, because it's always like good to hear these kind of stories. So people like you who've, you know, won over and you all your your cups and stuff. It's like and what is still trip.

SPEAKER_04 53:38

Yeah, and then you went on and to have great success the following year, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 53:42

Well, yeah, I I got second at Zone that day, and then I won Nationals a few weeks later. Oh, it might have been like I think it might have been a couple of weeks later Nationals was because we that was when we did the two seasons in the one year. We did Nationals and Zone. Remember back it was in the January, and then we did No idea. And then we did it all again later that year because they fit two national in

Zones in COVID

SPEAKER_01 54:07

the one year. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 54:09

So did you coach the really good thing? Who won? Did you? Whoever won the cup, oh this thing is so heavy. The fact that you had to carry three of these puppies, I just find so ludicrous. But anyway. So the person who won this, then did they earlier like have the title for like three months and then the next person was like?

SPEAKER_01 54:32

Um, when was it? They won it in the February, I think it was, or the January, and then I won it in the October. Gipped.

SPEAKER_05 54:41

Yeah, chipped.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

I think it was Sally. Yeah, yeah, it was Sally.

SPEAKER_03 54:46

Oh, Sal's a pretty good sport. Sal's a good sport. She's a good sport, but you're gyp Sal. He only got like a couple of months out of that.

SPEAKER_04 54:53

Poor thing.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

I would have given it back. I'd be like, no, this is a 12-month thing. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_04 54:59

I can imagine how hard it would have been to be good at fizzy in COVID as well. It was so hard.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

I remember practicing in my lounge room, like, you know, it was it was tough. You didn't have anyone really for corrections for such a long time.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

And we did Zoom like classes with each other. That's not so hard. Well, and the state year that I fell and touched the ground. Um there was no one in the audience except our teachers with masks on, so you couldn't even see their faces. So it was this truth because they already been there.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

You couldn't see them go, ooh, dude, that's a badge.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

It was across the front in front of Jackie and I forget who else was judging, but my chances were gone from the second that happened. Like I should have just walked off the floor. Um marched off the floor to try and redeem myself.

SPEAKER_03 55:48

Perfectly. Well, that's what happened to you at Zone where you marched out on the wrong place.

SPEAKER_04 55:51

Stepped out on the right and um let's be honest. But I I got back to the seats after sitting and waiting for not getting through to the next round. Shock horror. Shock horror. And um, I sat down next to my best mate, and I go, Oh my god, I totally fucked the

You marched out on the right ya nufty

SPEAKER_04 56:13

bloody cardio. I went the wrong way. She goes, No, you fucked it way before that. You stepped out on the riot. Did you not even know? No, she told me. And it goes, no, you fucked it way earlier than that. You marched out on the right, you bone it. You didn't know that. And you go back and watch a video and go, oh and so actually I thank her for that because I then I didn't feel as bad about the mistake I made in the cardio. Because I was like, she was already out, no one was watching.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

Actually, speaking of mistakes, I when I won grand.

SPEAKER_03 56:50

I have to whisper that. I'm in an issue.

SPEAKER_04 56:53

So when I won grand, I'm I won grand in my dream. And everyone would be like, fuck and shh shut up, we know. Thank god I have looked at a tattoo.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

Tad on your forehead. On one grand. I'm really good at physics.

SPEAKER_04 57:16

100. No, sorry, we digressed.

SPEAKER_01 57:18

I was doing the dance and I I made a mistake, but I just pulled it off so well that it must have been.

SPEAKER_03 57:24

No one noticed. Do anything with confidence. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

My sister said to me, she's watching obviously the video back that night, and she she's like, uh, do you realize you fucked up the dance? I was like, well, it

Make mistakes like they're improvements

SPEAKER_01 57:35

didn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 57:36

It really didn't matter. I made it look really good. Like, fuck yeah. I improved it. I improved the dance. That's what it was.

SPEAKER_03 57:44

I've got a question. Yeah. How important in judging is the march?

SPEAKER_04 57:50

Like, let's be honest. Do you really get written off? Do you get written off? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

There you go. People have been speculating.

SPEAKER_00 57:58

No, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 57:59

How does it work? Like when because I can appreciate as a judge, if you're like, you're trying to watch 15 people.

SPEAKER_01 58:05

You gotta count people out slowly. You gotta know what you're doing firstly.

SPEAKER_05 58:10

Um as a as a shit on bag with your majority of the day.

SPEAKER_00 58:16

We don't know. Don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Um no, look, the first like four to six counts matter the most.

SPEAKER_00 58:22

Four to what?

SPEAKER_01 58:25

The first four to six. Four to six counts matter the most time walk in.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

That's

The first four to six counts of marching matter most

SPEAKER_01 58:29

the first four to six when you take a rest of four. And I remind my girls every single time that they march in class, first four to six, or I ask them how many counts matter? First four to six. It's like running into their head now.

SPEAKER_03 58:41

So that when you're doing that line down the back.

SPEAKER_01 58:44

So you get in that zone before the music starts and remember four to six. But by the piano judge, you've seen the rest? I see the best, I am the best.

SPEAKER_04 58:52

But by the time you've hit that back wall, decisions have already been made.

SPEAKER_01 59:00

And honestly, there everyone judges a little bit differently. Yeah. Like everyone's system's different. Yeah. Um but you sort of generally have your sort of like A, B, C sort of category. Oh, you have columns. Well, if you judge like it, yes. Some people don't, some people have tallies, scores, whatever. Because it's so subjective. Like teens are different to individual judging scores. Yeah. Um but again, everything's subjective. Yeah. But if you if you've made it into the A sort of side, they'll keep watching. Yeah, they'll they'll keep coming back to you. A backup from a C Nah, like from a B.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

Making your life a B call into A back up. Yeah. So don't write, like, don't worry. Don't write yourself off too much.

SPEAKER_01 59:45

Like you know, if you fall over and touch the ground, you're done. I'm out of here. But you can you can redeem yourself, you know. Like some some people are those typical people that get better as they're on the floor. Like there's those people that come out with like a ball in nerves, and by the exercises or contemporary, they're they've settled in a bit. So then by the next round, they're good.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:07

Right. So you know, like when you do it in class, and we'll come back to judging, but you know, like when you're you've done the like this is kind of how we do it, you do your march at the start, and then you're going through your routine, and then we've got like usually the seniors are on after us, and then we're like, okay, well, we'll just do their march, but you are so much better. Oh, warmed up. You're warmed up, yeah. Right? So you've been in the mode for an hour. Yeah, so would you say on comp day, as would you recommend people, you know, like people doing run throughs and stuff like that. Are we are we drilling marching out the back?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:42

No, not necessarily. I just think you need to find how to get yourself into that zone, into that zone, whether it be you know confidence or running motion. Whether it be like listening to fizzy music or music. Physically warming up, yeah, warming up. You don't want to warm up too much though, because you don't want to exhaust yourself, so you want to stretch your dynamic stretching, not your static stretching. Because if you do your long, slow um stretching, you're gonna exhaust yourself. So you want to do quick, sharp, fast stretching.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:12

Um it's not what I do. Yeah, it's more about warming your body up.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:17

Yeah, so crap.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

We're doing everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:20

We're doing everything opposite. We had a makeup session last night. I've literally been doing my makeup like the 90s. I'm like far out. Okay, so we're getting in the zone. Yeah. We are lining up. Talk us through. We are lining up. Right. Renee's at the front, I'm at the back. You're a bitch.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

You're lucky if you're in the middle of the back. You're lucky if you're at the back. Yeah, if you've got time to get in the zone, right? Like if I'm if I'm further down the line, like my head's down. As soon as I come out of as soon as I've come out of that cur from that curtain, I no one else is in that room. You know, like picture yourself, you a dark room, and there's just this little spotlight on you. There's no one else around. Um, you're dancing to the to the light, to not an audience, right? Head down. And uh as I'm getting closer to the front of the line, it's like with every step, I've caught the beat of the music first. If you're at the front of the line, you need to sort of catch that with very quickly, you know? And gender.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:15

I don't have much option with that. I have to just be like go.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:19

So it's it's it is a bit more beneficial, I suppose, if you're at the back of your face.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:22

Oh hundred percent. Oh, what a big thing. Yeah, we don't have to march as long. Oh, another one.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:28

Um and then all puffed out because of your little legs.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

Shut it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:34

Um, and then I am such a like, you know, I'll just quickly clock over what I've got to go through, or I find one word that just switches me on. So one word or one thing that makes everything activate. So it's like whatever I've found that makes me go right, you're in it. Yep. Turns it all on. Um, and then maybe three or four people away from the front, my head's up and it's go time. Whereas if you're the first one, like if you're at the front, then you've got to find that before you take the floor.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:02

And you've got to do it on your own. Yeah, you can't. You can't be relying on looking at other codes.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:05

And don't psych

Get your "go word"

SPEAKER_01 1:03:06

yourself out, right? Because your brain's clever.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:07

Like if you've already like if so many people, if they get Yeah, you tell yourself that story that you're the first one out and it's so hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:16

Because you draw your your place for the marching. Like not necessarily tallest or shortest.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

Um, sometimes they do it that way, but generally you draw your your your order. Um, and so many people, as soon as they draw that first one out, they psych themselves out. Don't do that because whether you're first or last, you still have to march.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

Still gonna march. And it's still that four first four to six.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:38

And that's it, and you're still gonna be the person on the corner. Whether you're first or whether you're last, and you're still gonna be the person that they're looking at.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:45

Yeah. Yeah, so you because that's what they're doing, right? They're waiting for you to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

And once you've left the corner and you've done your first four to six counts, they've forgotten about you till you come back around. You could also see because they've got to watch 15 to well, there's normally 18 on the floor at the time at one time, right, on that floor. So they've got to watch another 17 other girls. So once they've watched the first one, they're watching all the other girls so they can get their numbers down, sort themselves out, and then they're back onto the rest.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

Right. So just nail it nail that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:14

So nail it. And also don't like yourself out that you're the first one because Well, it's an opportunity, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

It is a opportunity. If you if you see it that way, you say, Well, they might not even look at anyone else if I do it really well.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:24

Well, and that's and I have said I have said that to my girls too. I'm like, if you've really impressed them, Opera House is a good example, right? You've you've got eight counts across that stage before you turn and march away. But if the next person isn't overly impressive, they're gonna watch you before the third one comes out. They're gonna forget about their second person's eight counts, because if their first four counts, I suppose, haven't been that impressive, they're gonna turn back to this one that's now marching away from them before the the next eight counts start. So still never let it down, still never stop.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:52

So don't just get over and go, just just like I'll just trip over and touch the floor, like punch back a Notre Dame through the rest of it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:02

Or touch the floor, like yeah, touch the floor, and okay, and then um actually a a question that someone had was how do you know you know when you stop, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:12

The music never is Oh, it always ends in a funny spot.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:16

It either ends really abruptly or just not at all.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:21

Yeah, and you're like, let it end.

How do we end the insanity?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:23

Do we want to be stopping right when the music like you literally cannot hear it?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

It's done, it's over. I I'm more of a fan of like don't stop before the music. Is there anything you guys want to know? Anything else you want to know?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:36

I mean, that first four to eight counts was an absolute mind blow.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:41

And I think it does, it changes the perspective for people too, realizing like that that sets the tone, right? Like that Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:46

Go out like guns blazing, do not muck around.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:51

But really make the impression. Yeah, like I mean business, right? This shit matters.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:55

And and you're not like I think a lot of people are convinced the whole market. I mean the whole march does matter. It does, but you've got to go out guns blazing. Don't warm up to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:06

Even though marching is very like, you know, regimented and and in a way kind of plain. You still need to have expression. You still need to have musicality just in a different way. Um so don't sort of park everything aside in your like too much. Yeah. Still use all your elements that you you you use in fizzy in your marching. It's just using them in a different way.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:28

Um because again, we march to so many different styles of music. Yeah. You need to be able to adapt to all of those. But you need your expression, you need your musicality to be able to do that. You need your Simpson smile.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:43

I have one full one final question about marching. If you're lucky enough, if you're at Zone or wherever, and um or nationals, and you get to do, you know, the semi-final march out or the final march out before you actually start. People say the judges aren't really looking at that march.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:02

Are they? Definitely not.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:04

Oh, they're not, they don't care.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:05

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

Oh, great. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:07

Absolutely not. You could fall in, you could do a hands down and walk on your hands.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:11

Because people are like waving and they're like, I'm like, are they watching you?

unknown 1:07:15

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:15

They're not clocking you. Not at all. They're like, I don't care. You're too busy like sorting out, you know, your your papers and getting ready for because when when they finish that much, the first heat's at the end ready to tuck. Like, you know, they're tucked onto the end, ready to start. So you've got to be ready to go.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:29

Enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:29

Yeah, so you're just discussing with your co-judge, like, you know, where we're at, how we're gonna start. You've already sort of remembered what you've judged from the rounds before, who's in that heat where you're sort of going from. So do what you want.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:42

It must be exhausting being a judge.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Especially when you're sitting on the table and you're like, everyone's watching.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:48

Oh everyone's watching, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:50

Yeah. You can't even make a facial like a legit one.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:55

And you definitely can't like be writing and go with your pen or like look or point. Everything's discreet. Like you're trying not to talk, you're trying not to make too much eye contact because then if one of the competitors looks at you, you're trying not to move too much because you'll distract the girls. And like you don't want to make you don't want to crack any jokes because you do not want to laugh between the each other.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:17

Oh I'll cut all this stuff out so you can. Just think that you're laughing at them. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that to you to leave this part of it in here.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:24

Yes, that's that's one you've got to be careful with. Like they think you're laughing at them. Like, yeah, that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:29

You could be laughing about anything. Yeah. But yeah, if I was on the floor and I saw you laughing, I'd be like, oh fuck, what have I done?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:39

It's it's nice though, like I mean, judging's hard, but it's also like it gives you a whole different perspective of physician. And I think that and I think that really helped change physi for me too. Like when I started sort of seeing things from that side of it too, being like, Oh, that's what I need to do. Like I I was never um like that great at it. Like I was never that good of a martyr or never that that great. Until you became a judge. Yeah, and also a teacher. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, teaching my girls really put it into perspective for me because it made me stop and and really think about my own technique and my own execution because I'm wanting them to execute it perfectly, right? And I want them to have the expression that I'm visualising. So I'm like, well, I need to be doing that too.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:27

Yeah, honey.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:28

You know, my sister taught me for years, right? She's like, you know, stand in front of my face and she's like, you need to do it like this.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:34

How old is your sister?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:35

Uh she is 1990. What's that? She's turning 36 this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:40

Oh, okay. Yeah. She's still a baby girl too.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:43

Yeah, but like, you know, she'd be up in my face and moving with me. She's like, You need to do this, and I just never really understood it. Like, she she taught me, she pretty much she I'd say taught me everything that I know, but it wasn't until I was then on that sort of teaching that I was like, that's what she means. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:01

That's how I do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:04

And that's when I really started to succeed, was because then I was able to really put that into play because I'm like, now I know what she means.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:11

I'm visualizing it for myself. Yeah. I'm because I tried to explain it to someone else, and in that process I taught myself what I was trying to write to the same thing. That's why it's really useful.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

Um, not for like a the purpose of you know judging your friends or making anyone feel like inferior, but I think it's really like a positive thing when you sort of go, right, 13s and 14s, you sit down on the stage, 15 first years, let's hop up and you do a run through. We're gonna watch you. Then those 13s and 14s can go, oh, that's what they're doing, or that's how their their fizzy's looking like. I'm gonna try that too. And then you swap it. So it gives them a little bit of pressure, gives them a little bit of another perspective because they're seeing what I'm seeing, they're seeing you know, different type of fizzy. And you change that.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:54

Actually, we we do that sometimes at the end of our year at um our club, we'll watch the seniors, yeah. Yeah, and then you go back out and do yours, and it's like you've got to do it in the moment. Like you could sit there and watch fizzy all day and go to class next week, and it's not fresh enough to take on anything in. But if you're doing it in your own club, watch everyone's watching each other, and then you go and do yours again, it's easier to put it into practice.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:23

Absolutely, and there's so many different tools and things that you can do to pull stuff out of your fizzy, like to pull your expression, to pull your musicality. Um, and everyone's way that they do it, everyone's story that they find in their fizzy is different, right? But if you found it, I'll see it as a teacher. I don't need to know what it is, but I'll be able to see it. And there's so many different ways that you can do do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:45

Um but it's just So you mean like um your own personal journey in Fizzy and trying to bring that out, yeah, and tapping into your music, tapping into the story of the song.

Find the story in the song

SPEAKER_01 1:12:01

Sorry. No, no, no, you're so fine. Um but it wasn't in yeah, it wasn't until I was on the foot that I'm on now with fizzy that like I was able to then do that for myself because I was like seeing what I wanted. Yes um made a big difference. Yeah, a bit that's incredible. Particularly for things like your contemporary, for example. So I get my girls every year. Every year I get my girls to lay on the floor, I turn all the lights off in the hall, and the because contemporaries are hard to find your your expression in, right? Really hard. And right from the 13 seniors and ladies, they're all very like expressive pieces this year. So every year I get the girls to lay down, I turn off all the lights, and there's we we're very lucky we've got four spotlights in our halls. I put all four of them on, and I play the cont their contemporary piece three times over, and they're they've got to shut their eyes and lay in the dark. And I say to them, I'm like, I I don't care. I'm like, no, no one's allowed to speak, like your eyes have got to stay shut. Don't care what you're thinking, I don't care what you're doing or what you find in the piece. I said, but forget the music and listen to the words.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:12

I said, and whatever you find in the words, find like your you know, your meaning to it. I said, I don't want to know what that is. Like you don't have to tell me.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:20

That's your secret. It's like making a wish and someone going, What do you wish for?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:23

And you're like, Well, we can't tell you, it won't come true. Yeah, so then I say to them, okay, we're gonna listen to it once, listen to the words, we listen to it again, then find your story. I said, now we're gonna listen to it a third time and put that with the music, and then the fourth time we get up, the lights come on and they do it. And I compare it from the first time of the evening to the fifth time, once we've done it now, those those exercises, and it's like it there's no comparison. It's a really good tool to use, so you can do things like that too. But then when you find that expression, that's the sort of thing that still has to come back and still plays a part in your marching. Yes, you need that expression because you need that confidence that people find in those sorts of exercises. You still need that in your marching. Yeah, yeah. It's shoulders. It's not just this standing up straight and this these shapes that you're making. You need to exude confidence. You need to you need to have musicality.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:15

You've seen the rest, and now you're gonna see the best.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:19

Well, on that note, Miss Natalie Allen. Thank you so much for joining us. We are gonna be the most pro marchers you've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:28

I think you guys nailed it this morning, wasn't it? Oh, thank you. Amazing.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:31

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Look at us! We'll be tuning in from the season.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:36

Like a couple of five-year-olds. Look at us, Mummy Got it.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:44

That was a really good combo. Loved it. Um, and we've got video come in.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:48

Yes, so the vis video will line up to everything that we're talking about on the pod. Um, we might even release some of it early just so people have already seen it and it will improve the listening experience. Um, we often have a potty pick. We haven't had one in in a while. Yeah, we've course we always forget. I've got a good one for today, though. What is it? Tell me. So um at Instinctive Health, our making. Our amazing sponsor. Yeah, um, they're doing an end of financial year sale. So there's 50% off their health reset, which is worth $900. Oh, so good. And it goes for 12 weeks. That's huge. Um, yeah, it is a big subject. Oh, Erin, shadow. Yeah, what a legend. Um, she's also doing the health audit half price, so takes it to 60 bucks to talk to Erin for like 40 minutes. So good. I've done that, so good. Um, like, even if you just want to talk through like supplements or like you don't want a full consult. Like a full consult's like 180 bucks. Yeah. She usually does it for $120. Um, but we're gonna cut that in half again. $60, talk to someone about your health for 40 minutes.

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Yeah, um, the other thing that's got a 50% off is the Teen Um Healthy Mind Body programme, which is also new, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, relatively new. Um, and it really links into Erin's own lived experience having had um experienced a mental health crisis with her own teenager. Yeah, right. And so she's like all over it. Like a great resource and a help. Because it's like she wants to be the person that she wishes she could have been. Oh yeah, rough trot, poor thing, um, for everyone involved. Um I have to do a code. Is it a code or yes, TCPC?

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SPEAKER_04 1:17:22

I know, bye. This episode was recorded on Dark and

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